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Review: Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground

OVERVIEW: DISNEY’S FORT WILDERNESS RESORT FOR FIRST-TIME VISITORS

Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort & Campground has three types of accommodations:

1. Air-conditioned, fully-outfitted cabins with full kitchens (but, after their recent renovation, slightly limited ovens) that sleep six.

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2. Group campsites, which I’ll review if I can ever get my scout troop to make the 2200 mile round-trip drive to Walt Disney World.

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3. Family campsites for both tents and RVs that can be booked for up to ten people.

I’ve stayed at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort ten times–six times in the cabins, four times in the campsites, most recently in March 2020.

This review is based on those stays, and includes not only this summary page but also more pages with more detail:

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Fort Wilderness has a number of positives.

  • It is likely the best family campground in America, and the only one within Walt Disney World itself.
  • In addition to being a Walt Disney World resort with all the benefits that such brings, it contains a wide range of activities from trail rides to a petting zoo to campfire programs and movies.
  • The main pool has a slide, kids play area and light theming.
  • Up to ten people can stay in a Fort Wilderness campsite (only 6 in a cabin) and even more in one of the group campsites.
  • It has fun family dining.
  • It’s inspired some really sound fan sites, especially this forum.

However, for first-timers it brings many negatives as well. As a result, while wonderful for returning visitors who like to camp and for RV owners, Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort is at the bottom of the list of recommended resorts for typical first time family visitors to Walt Disney World.

You can have a wonderful visit at any Walt Disney World resort. To help with making great choices quickly, resorts are ranked on this site for first time visitors based first on their kid appeal, and then on their convenience.

On this basis Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort is the lowest-ranked resort for first time family visitors.

Kid Appeal. The wilderness and backwoodsy theming of this resort, while charming, is so subtle that it will miss most kids entirely.

Convenience. Sites and cabins at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort are remarkably inconvenient compared to the other Walt Disney World resorts.

While often thought of as out of the way, the resort is actually located just across Bay Lake and Seven Seas Lagoon from the Magic Kingdom. Its inconvenience comes not from its location but rather from the internal bus system that the sprawling resort uses.

To get to any theme park, two transportation actions are required—an internal bus, walk, or golf-cart ride to the appropriate transfer point, and then an external bus or boat to the park itself. This can easily add half an hour or more to daily transportation times—adding up to a lost afternoon or so over the course of an eight-night visit.

Moreover, simply getting around the seven hundred acre resort–getting to the pool, the shops, the playgrounds–can be a chore.  Even if you have a car, you are discouraged from using it in the campground itself, both officially and by the lack of parking spaces in places you might want to go. There’s less than a dozen car parking spots near the Meadow area–and that’s about it in the resort proper.

That is, you can use your car to drive to a theme park, but not to drive from your campsite to one of the campground’s two stores, its dining facilities, beach, pools or boat docks.

Golf carts are OK to use in traveling around Fort Wilderness resort itself.  Some families bring their own, or rent them–for on the order of $65 a day–at the campground.  Other families bring or rent bikes.

All these options moderate the convenience issues, but not enough to move Fort Wilderness up in my rankings.

CONSTRUCTION IN THE SETTLEMENT AREA AT DISNEY’S FORT WILDERNESS RESORT

The under-construction new Disney Vacation Club resort, Reflections, has taken out the western area of the Settlement in the far northern area of Fort Wilderness.

Gone–at least for now–are Mickey’s Backyard Barbecue, the blacksmith shop, and the pony rides. Instead you get construction walls.

Gone at my last visit, but soon to re-open, is the Tri-Circle D Ranch, where Disney’s draft horses are stabled.

The beach has moved from the western side of the Settlement’s Bay Lake shoreline to the eastern side.

ACCOMMODATIONS AT DISNEY’S FORT WILDERNESS RESORT

The two fundamental accommodation types at Fort Wilderness–campsites and cabins–are profoundly different and suited for very different types of travelers.

  • The campsites are suited for RV owners, or for those who both know how to tent-camp and have a strong gear set including a lot of sand-stakes and guy lines
  • The Cabins require no camping gear at all–only a willingness to put up with the poor convenience and relative lack of kid appeal of Fort Wilderness as a way to get accommodations for six and a full kitchen

All these options are in loops–the campsites largely in the northern area of Fort Wilderness and more convenient to most of its amenities, and the cabins mostly in the more distant southern part.

OVERVIEW OF CAMPSITES AT FORT WILDERNESS

Campsites are in loops 100-2100, and while all allow one rig or tent plus a second tent (and hold ten people) there are profound differences among them. I’ll come back to this in more detail later in this review, but here’s the key points:

  • Some loops are optimized for tent camping and have small asphalt areas and large sand tent pads–loops 1500 and 2000. Disney used to call these “Partial Hook Up” sites, and is now more commonly calling them “Tent or Pop-Up Sites.” You can book them for tent camping or for a pop-up or camper van.
  • Some loops have asphalt optimized for big rigs and (essentially) no tent pads–loops 400-1400.  These sites have longer and wider asphalt, and enhanced shoulder curves to help with the back-in (all Fort Wilderness RV sites are back-in). You can add a tent too, but it is very likely to be on the asphalt, have no staking ground, and limited guying options. So don’t. Disney sells two types of these, “Premium Meadow” loops (600, 800, 900, 1000, and 1400), near the amenities of the Meadow area, and  “Premium” loops (400, 500, 700, 1100, 1200, and 1300.)
  • Some loops combine good sized asphalt with a medium tent pad, and are best for those planning both an RV and a tent, or an RV smaller than the largest sizes.  Disney sells these under two names: the “Preferred” loops 100-300 near dining and Magic Kingdom boat transport, and loops 1600-1900, which Disney calls “Full Hook-Up.”  In addition, Loop 2100 is also classed as a Full Hook-Up site, but these commonly have a much smaller tent pad than all the other Full Hook Up sites. There’s more on Loop 2100 here.

All campsites come with a picnic table, barbecue grill, water and electricity, and available internet service. Full Hook Up, Premium, and Preferred sites add sewer and cable.

In picking loops, besides their rigs and gear, campers should also consider location–especially if they aren’t bringing or renting a golf cart.

Annotated Map Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Three location points are worth noting for campers. See the annotated map.

1. Closeness to the Settlement, at the far north end of Fort Wilderness circled in red on the map, where all dining but the Meadow pool snack bar is located, and where you’ll find many amenities, the beach, and the boat dock for transport to the Magic Kingdom and (via another boat) to the Contemporary Resort and Wilderness Lodge. The preferred loops and some of the premium loops are near here.

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2. Closeness to the Meadow, circled in yellow on the map, where you’ll find almost all the rest of the amenities, including the main pool and evening sing-along and character meet ‘n’ greet, watercraft and bike rental, and movies. Some of all loop types except preferred are near the Meadow. Several premium loops–specifically 400-800 and 1400–are nicely centered between the Meadow and the Settlement.

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3. Closeness to the dog park, marked in brown on the map.  In a change in late 2017, Fort Wilderness changed from some camping loops being pet friendly to all loops, including cabin loops, being pet friendly. The closest loops to the dog park are preferred loop 300, and premium loops 400 and 500. If your pets are good campers–our main dog the largely useless yellow lab Rory, and our emergency back-up puppy, golden Belle (shown), bark too much for camping–you’ll want one of these.

There’s much more on the campsites later in this review.

OVERVIEW OF CABINS AT FORT WILDERNESS

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The Cabins are in loops 2200 to 2800, and are distinctive accommodations that really have nothing to do with camping but are in the same resort and share in all of its amenities.

The cabins were last refurbed in 2016. In that refurb the former full-sized Murphy bed was replaced with a queen sized sofa bed, the kitchen was simplified to just two burners and a combined microwave/convection oven, and the full bed in the back bedroom was being changed to a queen. A photo tour of the refurbed cabins begins here, and a 60 Minutes style investigation into their new ovens is here.

Little standalone structures, Cabins sleep six in a back bedroom and the living room, and come with a full kitchen although the oven is a little limited. Classed by Disney as “moderate” resorts, they are the least expensive way to get a near-full kitchen on property.

Here’s the floor plan of refurbed cabins:

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Unlike the campsites, all cabin loops have the same amenities and pricing. They are in the southwest part of Fort Wilderness, and hence far from the Settlement and, in most loops, also not close to the main pool and other amenities at the Meadow–though there’s a small pool between loops 2500 and 2700. Loop 2200 is closest to the Meadow.

There’s much more on the Cabins later in this review.

DINING, POOLS, AMENITIES AND SUCH AT DISNEY’S FORT WILDERNESS RESORT

Fort Wilderness has as wide a range of amenities as you’ll find at any Disney resort except for fine dining.

Dining at Fort Wilderness includes the storied Hoop-Dee-Doo Revue, and the under-rated Trail’s End, with breakfast and dinner buffet. Food is also offered to go via P & J’s Southern Takeout. There’s also a bar, Crockett’s Tavern.

All these are at the far northern end of the resort, the Settlement. Sandwiches are also available at the Meadow pool snack bar. There’s more on these dining options later in this review.

Amenities at Fort Wilderness cover both campground-style activities and traditional Disney resort offerings, meaning it has more going on than any other Disney resort.  Options range from archery to kayaking to sing-alongs and movies under the stars. More on all these is later in this review.

Fort Wilderness has two pools. The main pool is in the Meadow area, and there is a small pool that’s a shorter walk from most cabins between loops 2500 and 2700. The last page of this review has more on these pools.

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There’s much disagreement on the best loops at Fort Wilderness, partly because people use the resort in different ways.

For campsite loops,

  • If your campsite trip is focused on dining, the Magic Kingdom, or beaches and water sports, then one of the preferred loops 100-300 near the Settlement is best–though tent campers will find themselves in a sea of rumbling RVs.
  • If your campsite trip is balanced across many parks, and you expect to spend a lot of time at the pool and using other Fort amenities, then a centered loop near the Meadow area is best–this includes almost all the premium loops except 1100 and 1200, tent and pop up loop 1500, and full hook-up loop 1600.

The online check-in form for the campsites lets you directly request a loop, and describe certain features of your rig.

The Cabin loops aren’t really near anything useful, but 2200 is closest to the Meadow area.

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Photo Tour of a Tent Campsite at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort

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PHOTO TOUR OF A TENT CAMPSITE AT FORT WILDERNESS

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Fort Wilderness’s tent campsites in loops 1500 and 2000 have a driveway big enough to fit a car, golf cart and a pop-up trailer, and a sand tent pad big enough for a couple of tents and a couple of dining flies.

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You are allowed to place a car, a golf cart, one camping vehicle or tent, and one additional tent; sites can be booked for as many as ten people. I saw several families sharing a campsite with two tents and hitting the ten person max.

Some more campsite photos from loop 1500:

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Tent campers need more gear than tents. At minimum they need shelter from the sun and rain, but you’ll see many families with tents and coolers only.

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A small family tent, a backpacking tent, and a cooler.

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An un-guyed tent, a cooler, and a radio I learned to hate (headphones, people!!).

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A tent and a cooler.

So I’m gonna take you through my campsite and gear from my April 2015 visit (my seventh stay at Fort Wilderness, and fourth time tent camping there), as a way to illustrate some key points about what to bring and how to lay everything out.

LAYING OUT YOUR FORT WILDERNESS CAMPSITE

Campsite Tour Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Your campsite will have a driveway, large tent pad, three fixed points–the charcoal grill, the power stand, and the water point–and one movable object, the picnic table.

Most will find plenty of room on the tent pad, but the largest groups–those with, for example, two very large tents and two large flies, one for dining and one for cooking and lounging–can find some space by moving the picnic table and its associated fly to the driveway. (This is often also a good move even with smaller gear sets in the full hook-up sites, as they have smaller tent pads.)

If you have enough room just on the tent pad for everything, the first step is figuring out where to set your tent and where to put the dining area. As you can see in the photos above, most families set their dining area and flies at the front of the space, and their tents at the back.  This has the effect of putting the more open and “social” space in the more public loop area of the camping loop, and the more closed and private space away from the loop roadways.

Well, I’d advise the opposite, for the simple reason that the charcoal grill is almost always at the back corner of the site. If you plan to use the grill, place your tent as far away from it as you can, and you’ll have both a simpler “kitchen” set-up and a safer tent.  The added plus is that your tent now serves as a bit of a view block, enhancing the coziness of your dining/kitchen/lounge area.

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Here’s the layout of my site, taken from the back by the grill. When I took the shot, I hadn’t yet set up our chairs–they went in the space between the grill and the fly:

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The other layout point to consider is the use of the fixed stuff around your campsite for guy lines.

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As noted earlier in this review, weather in Florida means you need lots of guys, and standard stakes like those shown above won’t hold up in the sand tent pads in weather.

Sand Stake Campsite Tour Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

The best staking option for guys is twist-in sand stakes like that shown at the right above (available here; 15 inch screwdriver to use to turn them in not included).

But even better is just fixing your guys to the permanent objects around your campsite–trees, the grill, and the power point. These are much more stable than any stake, and save the effort of drilling in the sand stakes.

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Note how for this corner of my fly I was able to use a tree and the grill for guying, and thus avoided any staking.

Five of my six fly poles (the four corner poles, and one of the two ridge poles) were fixed to something permanent, saving the effort of driving sand stakes.

So as you lay out your gear, look out for ways that by just shifting it a few feet, trees and other permanent features become more and less available for guying.

Guys Campsite Tour Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Some trees do double duty. This one is guying both a fly corner and a tent corner.

I travel with 24 top-notch guy lines that I made with Kelty TripTease Lightline with traditional metal line tensioners at one end and bowlines tied at the other end, and another 30 or so older guys with no reflectivity and less useful plastic tensioners for lower-performance uses.

If you can comfortably move around your campsite without tripping, then you don’t have enough guys lines out. While check-out time is 11a, if you have the proper number of lines you’ll need to start undoing your guys a day or so before to be ready by then.

COOKING AND EATING AT FORT WILDERNESS

Dining And Kitchen Campsite Tour Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Our kitchen set-up is the standard way we camp when it’s just me and my wife. We use the left side of the long two-level metal table at the back left of the image for food prep and clean up (there’s a sink at the right of this side, and the clean-up gear is on the ground under the table) and the lower right side for our chuck box.

I don’t think this table model is made anymore, but something similar is here. I saw a camper with a table/sink like this that also had a hookup for the water hose you’ll find at all Fort Wilderness campsites!  So jealous…

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Our chuck box is 15 years old and is so rusted I hold it together with a bungee cord. We’ve outfitted it with everything needed to prep, cook, serve and eat with the exception of wineglasses and big coffee mugs.  Most of what’s in it either came with it or is a kitchen cast-off, except I do have good knives in it. It’s always fully packed and ready to go so I don’t need to raid the kitchen or worry about forgetting stuff when we camp.

I can’t find equivalents at a reasonable price–this one is $250 and doesn’t even come with the pots, pans, bowls, cups, and utensils that ours came with–so when ours finally rusts into uselessness my sons and I will build a new one out of marine plywood.

One the ground at the back right there’s a wheeled 60 quart cooler, a separate small collapsible drink cooler with a grab-through pocket, and a water cooler.

Hint: fill and ice your water cooler before you start setting up camp. I didn’t, it was 90 degrees with 80% humidity, and if my sister and brother-in-law hadn’t ambled by from their condo for a visit with water bottles, I mighta had heatstroke…

On the table itself there’s a standard two burner stove, a camp coffee maker, a cute tablecloth, and a battery powered lantern. (Propane, gas, or electric lanterns work fine too.)

If the boys had also been on this trip, the second cooler would be larger, and we would have brought another collapsible table and moved the stove to it, so that we’d have more room at the picnic table.

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At the back corner of the campsite is the barbecue grill.

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The height of the grill is adjustable above the fire by a friction fit, and the handles are designed to dissipate heat. But I always have fire gloves packed in my gear bag, so I used those instead.

I’ve also found that grills of this design don’t have enough airflow, so I usually pour the charcoal onto the top of the grill of a disposable little grill, to get air underneath. I forgot my charcoal chimney, so got match-light charcoal instead of the better-tasting regular charcoal.

I travel with three tarps and tons of poles, so normally would have had the food prep and dish-washing area covered with another fly, which if I was lucky in my layout would serve as a sun/rain protection rig as well. (The third fly is if I need more weather protection…plus how can having three tarps be wrong??) On this trip it rained so much that we just did prep at the kitchen table.

Speaking of rain…let’s talk tents.

TENTS AND SLEEPING AT FOR WILDERNESS

noted earlier in this review that with storms common at Fort Wilderness, there’s real value to having a high-mesh tent with a full-coverage rainfly.

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Here’s my tent with its fly rolled up. Note that a third of it is almost all mesh, and the other two thirds have top to bottom mesh on the sides (warm air rises, and is replaced with cooler air from the bottom of the mesh) and full mesh on the top.

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Here it is with the fly, before I guyed it out.

A full coverage fly on a mesh tent is finicky, in that it’s more complicated to roll the fly up during good weather and get it down when you are expecting rain than it is to just zip and unzip the windows you’ll find in a traditional family tent.

But it is much dryer, and much more comfortable to sleep in during rain, than a traditional family camping tent.

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See the traditional tent above. Its rainfly covers only the roof, so is of help only when a light rain is coming straight down. That never happens in Florida, so what you do instead is zip up all the windows.

All those windows, even when zipped, provide a bunch more points for potential rain penetration, and more to the point, zipping them up means you have lost all airflow. So the tent gets warmer and more humid, and more humid and warmer.  Water condenses inside and drips on you.

There are better ways to sleep.  The simplest and cheapest is to supplement your typical family camping tent with a big blue tarp pitched above it. See the image below:

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Now this particular blue tarp install isn’t right. The blue tarp needs to be twice as long and twice as wide to provide enough rain shelter that some windows can be open for airflow.

Moreover, it should be pitched with a ridgeline, not as a lean-to, as otherwise water will collect in the middle of the tarp until the lines fail from its weight and all that water is dumped into the tent’s open windows…

REI Kingdom 8 Tent Campsite Tour Disney's Fort Wilderness Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Best, though, is a mesh body/full coverage fly tent like mine.

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Because every site has electricity at Fort Wilderness, bring some extension cords and both electric and battery powered fans.

Have a fan blowing in at one end, another blowing out at the other end, and hang the battery-powered fan in the peak of the tent to promote hot air exiting, and you can conquer any weather.

Sadly, while there’s tons of little tents of this design aimed at backpackers, there’s very few big enough to function as a family tent.   Coleman used to have such a model, but I haven’t seen it in a while.  The REI Kingdom 8 (my tent) and Kingdom 6 fit the bill, but are very expensive. I got mine as my main Christmas present or we would not have paid so much for a tent.  If you have alternatives, note them in the comment form below!!

Another gear point to consider if you have room in your tent is bringing cots. Cots are more comfortable than sleeping on the ground in general, and the added airflow underneath can be cooler.

We happened to have a queen sized cot designed for and sold with an air mattress, so we brought it this trip.  We also brought a collapsible shelf unit that my parents got for camping decades ago.

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So here’s what the interior of our tent looked like, overall…

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…closer on the bed side…

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…and closer on the cabinet side.

We also brought pillows, a comforter, and sheets for the bed.

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The point is that while you can sleep on the ground in a sleeping bag, you don’t have to.  Take anything that will make you more comfortable that you can fit in your car!

The shelf unit folds up to the tiny wooden thing on the right of the blue and white cooler, and below is how small the cot is when folded up:

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THE COMFORT STATIONS AT DISNEY’S FORT WILDERNESS RESORT

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The Comfort Stations at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort

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THE COMFORT STATIONS AT FORT WILDERNESS

At Fort Wilderness’s 15 comfort stations you’ll find bathrooms, laundry rooms, ice machines, and resort information and notices.

They are generally air conditioned–though on my last visit, the air conditioning in the men’s side of the comfort station between loops 1500 and 1600 wasn’t working, although that in the laundry room was going strong.

Of the fifteen comfort stations, one is by the quiet pool in the Cabins area, and one serves the group campsite Creekside Meadow (it’s accessible from loop 2000 as well). The other 13 are scattered among the 20 camping loops at Fort Wilderness.

Simple math will tell you not every loop has its own comfort station, so you will sometimes see people saying things like “Don’t stay in Loop 1000, it doesn’t have a comfort station.” Such comments are largely silly, as there is a very close comfort station in loop 900.

If you do the math for campsites per comfort station including shared comfort stations, you get 13 loops with about 60 campsites per comfort station. Anomalies are loops 400 to 800, with over 110 sites among them per comfort station, loop 1100 with about 25 sites for its station, and loop 2000, with two (or three if you count Creekside Meadow) comfort stations for its ~70 campsites.

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The only point of concern here is loops 400-800 with just two comfort stations serving ~235 campsites, but these are premium campsites intended for honking big Class As and fifth wheels, all of which have their own baths, many nicer than mine at home.

So unless you are tent camping in a premium loop–which you should not be doing–don’t let the presence or absence of comfort stations in a loop much affect your loop choices.

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The comfort stations are cute little buildings with a lot of helpful notices on their outside walls. Examples are above and below.

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Items covered include menus for the dining options at Fort Wilderness, movie and other activity schedules, and various rules–e.g. about what kind of portable fire-pits can be used.

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Outside you”ll also find a coin-operated ice machine.

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It turns out that my drink cooler is the perfect size for getting a load of ice.

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In the center inside is a laundry room with washers and dryers.

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Cold drinks and various laundry supplies are also available here.  Right now, it’s all quarters–there’s a change machine–but laundry rooms at Fort Wilderness are expected to move to a mix of quarters and credit cards soon.

On either side of the laundry room are the restrooms.  They are clean, bright, well-appointed, have plenty of hot water, and for most but not for me are air-conditioned. You need your MagicBand to access them late at night.

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Sinks and toilets are on one side…

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…and the other side has showers.

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Each shower area has an outer dressing area and an inner shower area, and one of them has extra accessibility features.

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The Pools at Disney’s All-Star Movies Resort

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THE POOLS AT DISNEY’S ALL-STAR MOVIES RESORT

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Each of Disney’s All-Star Resorts has two pools.

Review The Pools at Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.netThere’s a larger one between two accommodations buildings just outside of the central lobby/dining/shops area, and a smaller one back in a different area.

At All-Star Movies, the larger main pool is between the Fantasia buildings and is themed as the area into which Sorcerer Mickey empties water.

Here you’ll also find pool games played with Disney cast members, and evening movies.

The smaller one off to the side in the Mighty Ducks area, is themed as a hockey rink (but warmer!) is accompanied by Goofy.

The larger Sorcerer Mickey pool:

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From another angle:

Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Sorcerer Mickey:

Sorceror Mickey Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net (2)

The pool at night:

Night Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Movies show here at night.

Movies Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Each of the All-Stars has a different movie schedule, so also checkout what is playing at All-Star Music–an short walk away.

Kids Pool Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Nearby is an icy-looking kid’s play pool, the best at the All-Stars because it has both a pool area (as the others do)  and, uniquely, a water jet area. Note Disney’s restraint in not converting this to a Frozen theme.

Ping Pong Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

There’s also pool-side ping pong tables.

Play Area Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

A little away from the pool, between Toy Story and Fantasia areas, is a playground.

Bar Fantasia Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Between the pool area and the food court (and serving both) you’ll find this bar.

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Deeper in the resort in the Mighty Duck area is the Duck Pond pool, themed as a hockey rink with Goofy in as goalie.

Mighty Ducks Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net (3)

Another view of the Duck Pond pool…

Mighty Ducks Pool Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

…and the pool at night.

None of the pools at Disney’s value resorts have slides.

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The Themed Areas at Disney’s All-Star Movies Resort

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THE THEMED AREAS AT ON DISNEY’S ALL-STAR MOVIES RESORT

Disney’s All-Star Movies Resort is one of 5 value resorts at Walt Disney World:

Music, Movies, and Pop Century have queen beds in their standard four person rooms. Art of Animation standard four person rooms have full beds.  At Sports, a refurb with queen beds has begun, so queen beds will become increasingly common.

For standard rooms, for most families Art of Animation is the best choice despite the full beds, followed by Pop Century. All-Star Movies is the third-best choice.

Two value resorts also have six-person family suites–

–and for family suites, too, for most families, Art of Animation is the best choice, although in some circumstances those at Music are the better choice.

Disney’s All-Star Movies Resort officially salutes

“…classic Disney films—including Disney·Pixar’s Toy Story, Fantasia, The Love Bug, The Mighty Ducks and One Hundred and One Dalmatians…the Toy Story section features a 27-foot-tall bucket of Green Army Men, a 30-foot-tall Woody icon and a 47-foot-tall Buzz Lightyear icon. The buildings are painted in bright colors and covered with playful details and hidden surprises.”

All-Star Movies has 1920 rooms in ten three-story buildings, all with elevators.

These buildings are in five areas, with each area themed around a different movie–Fantasia, The Love Bug, Toy Story, 101 Dalmatians, and The Mighty Ducks.

Map Disney's All-Star Movies Resort

Of these, the Love Bug and Mighty Ducks area are most distant from the central services in Cinema Hall, and the other three areas are close.

See the map–but also see below on a way to increase Mighty Ducks convenience. Parts of the Mighty Ducks and Fantasia areas surround pools–making them noisier.

Each area has distinctive multi-story statues and building decorations tied to its theme.

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Buildings 5 and 8, Fantasia, are grouped around the main Fantasia Pool, and very close to Cinema Hall. The pool makes them noisy, and honestly I’m a little weirded out by the Fantasia decorations and characters:

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…especially at night.

Fantasia Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

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Buildings 1 and 4, 101 Dalmatians, are close to the central services, and a good choice for balancing location and lack of noise.

Pongo 101 Dalmations Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

You’ll find here Pongo…

Perdita 101 Dalmations Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Perdita…

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…and a lot of puppies.

101 Dalmations Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Once the kids get the fire hydrant joke, they’ll giggle for hours.

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There’s not much going on in the courtyard between the two Dalmatians buildings, which–at least for me–makes for a bit of a welcome respite.

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Buildings 2 and 3, Mighty Ducks, are grouped around a second pool, the Duck Pond, and far from Cinema Hall–but very close to the food court and bus stops at the next-door All-Star Music Resort.

The Mighty Ducks Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

They are hockey-themed, and as with the Fantasia section, a little frighteningly so.

Food Court Options Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

See the map for how many rooms in the Mighty Ducks buildings are actually closer to the food court and bus stop at All-Star Music than the ones at All-Star Movies.

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Buildings 9 and 10, Toy Story, are close to both Cinema Hall and the bus stops, with some hard to find but very close parking spots (between buildings 9 and 8).

They are probably the best overall place to stay at All-Star Movies, because of kid appeal, convenience, and relative quiet.

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The courtyard between the two buildings, watched over by Buzz and Woody, is themed at its center as a multi-story version of Andy’s room.

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This shot gives a better sense of the scale of this space.

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Army men guard the ramparts.

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The final themed area, Buildings 6 and 7, Love Bug, is as distant from Cinema Hall as the Mighty Ducks.

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There’s not a lot to the theming here–the front half of the Love Bug comes out of one building…

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…and the back half from another.  Note also the screwdriver and wrench theming along the walls–a visual that just screams “vacation.”  To someone.

Love Bug Disney's All-Star Movies Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

The central area between the two buildings is set up for award presentations–a lot of youth sports teams competing in tournaments at ESPN stay at the All-Stars, and can congratulate themselves here.

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Review: The Pools at Disney’s Port Orleans Riverside Resort

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THE POOLS AT PORT ORLEANS RIVERSIDE

Disney’s Port Orleans Riverside Resort has 6 pools–a large themed main pool on “Ol’ Man Island,” and five smaller ones scattered around Magnolia Bend and Alligator Bayou.

THE MAIN POOL AT PORT ORLEANS RIVERSIDE

Main Pool Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

The main pool at Port Orleans Riverside (along with that at its sister resort Port Orleans French Quarter) is middle-of-the pack among the moderates, with the main pools at both Caribbean Beach and Coronado Springs much better, and that at Fort Wilderness much worse.

Sawmill Flume Main Pool Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

The main pool is themed to an old lumber mill, with the theme mostly presented through flumes dropping water (above) and a water slide themed as a flume (below).

Slide Main Pool Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

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Another view of the flume theming.

Main Pool at Night Port Orleans Riverside from yourfirstvisit.net

The main pool at night.

Like those at the other moderates, the pool is too small for the number of people who want to use it. (Hence the five other pools.) It also has more shade than is common–those seeking a main pool with more sun are welcome to use the one at Port Orleans French Quarter.

It has this kids pool, without the theming, sprays, or splash play you’ll find  at Port Orleans French Quarter, Caribbean Beach or Fort Wilderness…

There’s room here for a more sophisticated kids water play area–see the circled area in the image. Since sister resort Port Orleans French Quarter got a terrific version of such a play area in 2016, I keep hoping we’ll see a comparable play area one at Riverside…

Hot Tub Main Pool Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Port Orleans Riverside also has a hot tub. Note the hammocks!

Bar Main Pool Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

The pool bar is typical of the moderates, though the lumber mill theming eliminates its chance for grace. Like most– but not those at Coronado Springs or Fort Wilderness–there’s no real food here.

There are some interesting lighting effects at night here.

Some more shots of the main pool:

THE QUIET POOLS AT PORT ORLEANS RIVERSIDE

Like the other moderates except French Quarter, the sprawl of Riverside means many rooms are a hike from the main themed pool.

Five smaller pools are thus scattered around the resort to provide nearer access and, in general, more pool capacity. The traditional lingo for these has been “quiet pools.”

Two pools (near-identical so far as I can tell) serve the 1000+ rooms in Magnolia Bend, and three smaller pools (that are similar to each other but not quite identical) serve the 1000+ rooms in Alligator Bayou.

Towels are available at each, sometimes inside the laundry room.

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South Pool Magnolia Bend Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

One Magnolia Bend pool (photos above) is between the two Royal Room buildings, 90/Oak Manor and 95/Parterre Place.

Another very similar pool is between the two other Magnolia Bend accommodations buildings, 80/Acadian House and 85/Magnolia Terrace. (Photos below.)

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There are three pools in the Alligator Bayou section–three because one of the least-known features of the overall theming of Port Orleans Riverside is that the accommodations buildings of Alligator Bayou are meant to be perceived as being in three groups.

(I learned this from portorleans.org, a great fan site covering both Riverside and French Quarter.)

Map Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort

See the map for the three different colors it shows for Alligator Bayou–grey, blue, and purple, going counterclockwise from Magnolia Bend.

The idea is that as settlers penetrated the backwoods of the Sassagoula basin, it became harder and harder to ship or afford the comforts of civilization.

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So the buildings of Alligator Bayou closest to Magnolia Bend (gray on the map) have fancy citified brick columns and tin roofs (not shown)…

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…while those more distant from Magnolia Bend have more humble and simple construction.

This is all too subtle to have ever much worked, but the three slightly different themed areas is why there are three quiet pools back here–one for each area.

Each is similar to the rest, and each is both much more curvy than the Magnolia Bend pools and more verdant and shaded (like a forest pond, as opposed to a formal fountain).

North Pool Alligator Bayou Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net


Above is the Alligator Bayou pool closest to Magnolia Bend, serving the grey buildings.

Northwest Pool Alligator Bayou Disney's Port Orleans Riverside Resort from yourfirstvisit.net

Here’s the middle pool, serving the blue buildings

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And here’s the far pool, serving the buildings purple on the map. Far from Magnolia end, that is: these purple buildings are very close to the resort’s central services area.

All of these pools are open to any Port Orleans guest–as is the main pool and great kids play area at Port Orleans French Quarter.

Aim for the main pool for the theming and the bar, or a nearby quiet pool if the main pool is too far or full.  The Alligator Bayous pools have more shade and a laid-back feel; the Magnolia Bend pools more sun, more grace, and more formality.

THE HISTORY OF DISNEY’S PORT ORLEANS RIVERSIDE

See Jim Korkis on the history of this resort here.

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