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Photo Tour of A Not Yet Refurbed Room at Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort
(For the first page of this review of Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort, see this.)
PHOTO TOUR OF A NOT YET REFURBED ROOM AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
Room at Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort are being refurbed. As of June 2018, rooms have been refurbed, or are being refurbed, in all accommodations buildings except in Rancho 7b and Cabanas 8b and 9a. A photo tour of a refurbed Coronado Springs room is here.
This page is a photo tour of one of the remaining not yet refurbed rooms. The rooms at Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort, while generally familiar to those who have stayed in other Disney World traditional moderate resorts, do have some real distinctions–mostly from adapting the basic layouts to the needs of convention visitors.
You’ll find two queens separated by a night table on one side of the room.
The night table has a drawer large enough for important books.
Here’s a view of beds from the bath side of the room.
The linens are elegant in a way typical of the room’s furnishings and fittings.
The area right in front of the windows is open. You’ll find here, instead of the air handler of other moderates, two ottomans. These can be used as chairs and moved around the room.
On the side of the room away from the beds, you’ll find a desk–not the table and chairs found here in the other moderates–and an integrated dresser/mini-fridge/TV unit.
Here’s the same side of the room as seen from the bath area.
The desk is fine for one person to work at, and, if you pull over an ottoman, can also serve as a table.
After the desk, the next feature of the room inspired by taking care of two convention visitors per room is the combined TV thingy/dresser/fridge, the next item along this wall.
Note the two columns of drawers. The other moderate rooms typically have several large drawers for a family; these rooms have six smaller ones, so that two conventioneers can each have a stack of drawers.
Next to these is a mini-fridge. Beyond, rather than the kids bench you’ll find in other moderates, is blank space–perfect for a luggage rack.
The bath has just one sink. (Refurbed rooms have two.)
Instead of being separated from the rest of the space by fabric curtains, rolling wooden doors isolate the bath from the sleeping area. In the other moderates, you’ll find similar doors only at Caribbean Beach.
Also in the sink area is the hanging rod, iron, and ironing board.
Finally, as usual, the tub and toilet area is in its own separate walled enclosure.
There’s a couple of these differences between Coronado Springs rooms and rooms in the other traditional moderates that I see as losses for family visitors–the lost sink, the lost table and two chairs, the lost kids bench.
Others, however, are clear positives–the extra living space in front of the window, the extra drawers, the two ottomans, and the wooden bath separator.
On balance, I think these rooms are just fine for families, but you may have to think about each little difference compared to the other traditional moderates in the context of your specific family!
The refurbed rooms will be better than most families, adding as they do a second sink, a bigger TV, an easy chair, and Disney theming–which you won’t see at all in not-yet-refurbed rooms.
PHOTO TOUR OF A REFURBED ROOM AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
This review continues here!
TOPICS IN THIS REVIEW OF DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
- Overview and summary review of Coronado Springs
- The theming and accommodations areas of Coronado Springs
- A photo tour of a not yet refurbed room at Coronado Springs
- A photo tour of a refurbed room at Coronado Springs
- Amenities at Coronado Springs
- Dining at Coronado Springs
- The pools at Coronado Springs
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November 26, 2014 2 Comments
Review: Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort
Note: Coronado Springs has entered an extensive refurb. See this for more. Moreover, its main pool will be closed for refurb from early September through mid-December. If your visit requires pool time, it may be a bad choice during that period. See this for more on the pool closure at Coronado Springs.
Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort is distinctive among Disney World’s moderate resorts for its level of amenities–higher than at any other moderate–and some of the characteristics of its rooms.
Both of these distinctions come from its dual role as both a family hotel and a convention hotel, which yields both positive and negative effects.
- Extra amenities available only at Coronado Springs among the moderates are those typically offered to business travelers, including a fitness center and a grill at the main pool.
- The rooms differ a bit from other moderates in that their fixtures and fittings have been optimized for double-occupancy convention stays, so things are just a little different than in the other moderate rooms. (More on this later.) Moreover there overall decor is starkly masculine, and not as fun as, for example, the Disney-themed rooms at Caribbean Beach.
Even so, my half-dozen stays at Coronado Springs (most recently in November 2014) confirm that Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort remains the second best of the moderate resorts for first time family visitors.
(For what the moderates provide, and how they compare to the other Disney World resort classes, click here)
You can have a wonderful visit at any Walt Disney World resort.
However, this site recommends that first time visitors to Walt Disney World avoid the moderate resorts, while noting that these resorts are wonderful for visits after the first. (See this for why.)
That said, the moderates represent ~30% of the rooms of Walt Disney World, and will be sought by some because this site’s recommended resorts are sold out, because you are on return visits, or because–sensibly–you’re just not that into my rankings!
So I’ve stayed (so far) in the moderate resorts 35 times, and published reviews of each.
Note that the long-time travel agent partner of this site, Kelly B., can help you book your Disney World vacation at Coronado Springs or anywhere else–contact her at at KellyB@DestinationsInFlorida.com or 980-429-4499.
REVIEW: CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
Resorts are ranked on this site for first time visitors based first on their kid appeal, and then on their convenience. On this basis, Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort is the second-best moderate resort for first time family visitors.
(Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort is first but see this before you consider booking it, Port Orleans Riverside is third, and Port Orleans French Quarter fourth; these results are very close. The Cabins at Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort are ranked last, and this is not close.)
FLOOR PLANS AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
Like those in the other traditional moderates, rooms at Coronado Springs have ~314 square feet.
These rooms are quite spacious, and the bedroom area is particularly ample–bigger than the bedroom spaces at the smallest deluxe resorts. (See this.)
The rooms sleep four in two queen-sized beds. You can add to this capacity of four a child younger than three who sleeps in a crib.
They do have some differences compared to other standard moderate rooms, mostly tied to their potential use by double-occupancy convention visitors.
- Rather than a table and two chairs, they have a desk with one chair
- Rather than a set of several large drawers, there’s two sets of three smaller drawers–one set for each convention occupant
- The TV wall next to the bath omits the small bench and coat rack typically here at the other moderates
- The bathroom is divided, but is set up for single use, and for more privacy while it’s being used. The screen separating it from the bedroom is solid wood, not fabric (among other moderates, only refurbed rooms in Caribbean beach have this), and it has one sink rather than two
Other room points worth noting:
- The heating/cooling unit has been moved from in front of the window where you’ll find it in other moderates to a walled in space next to the first bed. This frees space by the window compared to the other moderates, and that space has been filled with two little ottomans
- The room overall is stark and masculine.
KID APPEAL AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
While slight, the kid appeal of Disney’s Coronado Springs Resort is enough to bring it to second in the ranking on this measure among the moderates, after Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort.
Coronado Spring’s kid appeal comes from:
–The American southwest and Mexican architecture and theming, which will be exotic and intriguing to some kids who have not traveled to or lived in such regions.
–The beaches in one of the resort’s three sections, the Cabana area.
–And the fun main pool, decorated with a Mesoamerican pyramid
The rooms themselves have zero kid appeal, being the most “businesslike” of rooms in any of Disney’s moderate resorts.
CONVENIENCE AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
Disney’s Coronado Springs is the second most convenient of the Moderates, exceeded only by Disney’s Port Orleans French Quarter.
Disney calls it an “Animal Kingdom Area Resort,” and is poorly placed on maps in many websites and guidebooks right next to the Animal Kingdom.
It is in fact just a bit west of World Drive, is as close to Disney’s Hollywood Studios as it is to the Animal Kingdom, and is the most centrally located of all the moderate resorts.
(It is just south of the (theme park attendance weighted) center of Walt Disney World. This center is located in the undeveloped area west of World Drive, north of the Coronado Springs Resort, and south of the Magic Kingdom parking lot.)
OTHER DISTINCTIVE FEATURES OF DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
For adults, Coronado Springs Resort presents far and away the best value for money among the moderates.
It is the only moderate with a spa, the only one with a health club, the only one with a substantial room-service menu, and the only one with real business services support.
It also has in Pepper Market one of the better food courts among the moderates, although it is much less fun, varied and interesting (and complicated…) than it used to be.
For all this, you may pay $3-6 more per night some nights of the year than you would at Caribbean Beach, but will pay less than at Port Orleans Riverside or French Quarter.
On the other hand, the reason it has such good amenities is because Coronado Springs is the only moderate which also serves conventions. If a big convention is at the resort, the food court, restaurants and bars can be choked up with the crowds.
The peak season for Orlando conventions is January through March.
BEST PLACES TO STAY AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
This site suggests that first time visitors stay in standard rooms, not preferred rooms (because they won’t be spending much time in their rooms, or going to the main resort food area often; the single exception is visitors to the Animal Kingdom Lodge, who should always pay for savanna views.)
Coronado Springs has three architecturally different areas: the Casitas, buildings 1-5; Cabanas, buildings 8-9; and Ranchos–buildings 6 and 7.
There’s pretty stark trade-offs among the areas in terms of access to the food court and main pool.
See the map (click it to enlarge it.)
Standard rooms on the top floors (quieter) in buildings 8a and 8b of the Cabanas section are the best bet, because of their access to the kid-pleasing beaches that are present only in this section of the resort, closeness to both the main pool and the dining area, and nearby bus stop.
(I used to recommend 9a, but construction in the former site of 9b makes me hesitant to advise staying there.)
The top floors (quieter) of the Casitas are the next best choice, partly because their architecture provides a mostly sun-and-rain-shielded walkway to the central services and food area. Buildings 1, 2, and 3 benefit from this walkway, and are closer to the food court; buildings 4 and 5 don’t have the walkway, and are further from the food court, but are closer to the main pool.
Avoid the Ranchos (buildings 6 and 7), as their theming—southwestern desert—is too subtle for most kids, and may show up to them as ugly or forbidding instead. They are also farthest from the food and other central services—though many are quite close to the main pool.
Here’s the online check-in form:
BEST FOR:
Families that will take advantage of the extra amenities—the room service, spa, health club, business center, etc.
WORST FOR:
Families that won’t—the extra price, and risk of convention congestion, would suggest Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort instead.
The long-time travel agent partner of this site, Kelly B., can help you book your Disney World vacation at Coronado Springs or anywhere else–contact her at at KellyB@DestinationsInFlorida.com or 980-429-4499.
PHOTO TOUR OF A STANDARD ROOM AT DISNEY’S CORONADO SPRINGS RESORT
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November 26, 2014 14 Comments
8a Openings at the Magic Kingdom Through December
Those using one of the shorter Basic Itinerary variants that include arriving at MK by park open should note that the Magic Kingdom will open to the general public at 8a through December, rather than the 9a opens that have been common in the past the first three weeks of December.
So for any day when a Basic Itinerary variant suggests arriving early for a 9a open, leave 45 minutes earlier to get to the park for an 8a open.
The core Basic Itinerary itself is designed so that you don’t have such early mornings…
November 25, 2014 No Comments
Next Week (November 22 Through November 30, 2014) at Walt Disney World
DISNEY WORLD NEXT WEEK: NOVEMBER 22 TO NOVEMBER 30, 2014
The material below details operating hours, Extra Magic Hours, parades, and fireworks.
The same stuff is in the image, but organized by park, not by topic. For more on November 2014 at Walt Disney World, click here.
Note that typos happen, and schedules change! If something seems odd, or if you want to double check, use the calendar links near the bottom to get the latest official Disney World scoop.
OPERATING HOURS AT WALT DISNEY WORLD 11/22-11/30/2014
The Magic Kingdom will be open 8a to 12MN 11/22 and 11/23, 8a-1a 11/24, 8a-12MN 11/25 through 11/29, and 8a-7p 11/30
Epcot will be open from 9a-9p 11/22 through 11/27, and 9a-9.30p 11/28 through 11/30
Disney’s Hollywood Studios will be open 9a-8p 11/22 and 11/23, 9a-10p 11/24 through 11/29, and 9a-8p 11/30
Disney’s Animal Kingdom will be open 8a-7p 11/22, 8a-8p 11/23 through 11/28, 9a-8p 11/29, and 9a-7p 11/30
EXTRA MAGIC HOURS AT WALT DISNEY WORLD 11/22-11/30/2014
Saturday 11/22 Morning: Hollywood Studios Evening: Magic Kingdom
Sunday 11/23 Morning: Animal Kingdom Evening: None
Monday 11/24 Morning: none Evening: Hollywood Studios
Tuesday 11/25 Morning: Epcot Evening: none
Wednesday 11/26 Morning: Animal Kingdom Evening: none
Thursday 11/27 Morning: Magic Kingdom Evening: none
Friday 11/28 Morning: none Evening: Epcot
Saturday 11/29 Morning: Hollywood Studios Evening: Magic Kingdom
Sunday 11/30 Morning: none Evening: Hollywood Studios
PARADES AT WALT DISNEY WORLD 11/22-11/30/2014
The Magic Kingdom:
- Afternoon Festival of Fantasy Parade: 3p every day
- Evening Main Street Electrical Parade: 9 and 11p 11/22 through 11/29
FIREWORKS AT WALT DISNEY WORLD 11/22-11/30/2014
Wishes at the Magic Kingdom: 10p 11/22 through 11/29
Illuminations at Epcot: 9p 11/22 through 11/27; 9.30p 11/28 through 11/30
Fantasmic at Disney’s Hollywood Studios: 6.30 and 8p every night
SHOW SCHEDULES FOR WALT DISNEY WORLD 11/22-11/30/2014
See Steve Soares’ site here. Click the park names at its top for show schedules.
LONG RANGE WEATHER FORECAST FOR WALT DISNEY WORLD 11/22-11/30/2014
See this for forecasts.
DISCLAIMER
Everything is subject to change and typos! Check the Disney Calendars for updates and official schedules. These calendars can be found by clicking the following links:
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November 20, 2014 No Comments
The easy Guide to Your First Walt Disney World Visit 2015
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November 19, 2014 123 Comments
A Moderate Disney Vacation Club at Caribbean Beach?
(For the first page of this review of Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort, see this.)
DISNEY VACATION CLUB AT CARIBBEAN BEACH?
There’s been speculation about Disney Vacation Club units at Disney’s Caribbean Beach Resort for a while, but the first rumors from people I respect came—so far as I noticed—when Jim Hill and Len Testa discussed the possibility in an August edition of the Disney Dish Podcast.
There were many curious things about this podcast and the one a couple of weeks before, including a claim that Disney had overbuilt hotels, and was using DVC conversions to take out capacity.
In fact, reported capacity utilization at the Disney domestic resorts has been steady or going up quarter over quarter for several years now, and last quarter was at a world-class 83% (the national average was around 65%) — up 5 percentage points over the same quarter prior year.
Moreover, the more recent DVC conversions have added deluxe capacity, not cut it. The most recent DVC projects have added deluxe capacity for more than 5000 people/night:
- The combination of actions at the Animal Kingdom Lodge added net nightly capacity of more than 2500 people (taking out capacity of 300 at Jambo House by subtracting rooms and replacing them with on-average higher bay DVC spaces, and adding capacity for 2900 people at Kidani).
- Bay Lake Tower added a net of nightly capacity for about 1700 people, taking out about 1250 people worth of space in the North Garden Wing and adding back space for 2900 or so in Bay Lake Tower.
- The Villas at the Grand Floridian was not a conversion, but simply an addition of capacity of about 1,000 people.
- The Polynesian conversion—if the converted longhouses are solely studios, as is expected—will also add capacity via the bungalows, on the order of a couple of hundred people.
Now it is true that all the net growth is on the DVC side, as hundreds of rooms have shifted out of the deluxe inventory from the Animal Kingdom Lodge, Contemporary Resort, and Polynesian and into the DVC inventory.
But that does not mean deluxe “capacity” has gone down. First, the DVC rooms are available to the general public as deluxe spaces for rent, and second, DVC point purchases are economic substitutes for yearly rentals of deluxe rooms. Over the long term, a bed at a DVC resort is simply a pre-paid deluxe bed.
Rather, it hints at the short term economic value of DVC sales to the Walt Disney Company. Take the Polynesian conversion. At rack rates, WDW can clear in revenue for each room at the Poly about $200,000 per year at max occupancy by treating it as a hotel room. At likely Polynesian DVC point cost and studio point charts, selling that same capacity to DVC contract buyers will generate one-time revenue of almost $1.1 million—plus even more for annual dues to cover operating and upkeep costs. This is a much better year for that room…
So I can stop there…but there’s more. The more of this capacity Disney can sell to DVC members, the more it has laid off the risk of future swings in demand for hotel rooms. DVC members have to pay their dues…but they don’t have to use their points. This is just upside for Disney, as in effect the future room charge is pre-paid through the point purchase, upkeep is paid annually, and, if points are unused, Disney can in effect double-charge for the room by putting it on the cash market any nights it is unoccupied by point holders.
Now beyond the medium term it is likely better to have a room on the balance sheet and be able to charge for it year after year than to take a one-time payment of 6 times yearly revenues for it and have it not be on the balance sheet.
But from an income statement point of view, monetizing DVC rooms works fine so long as there is a sufficient flow of DVC contracts to sell to make year to year comparisons OK. (The importance of this issue was highlighted in this month’s earnings call, where the lack of units to sell compared to last year’s sales of contracts for the Villas at the Grand Floridian was explicitly addressed.)
Testa and Hill mentioned Caribbean Beach as the possible first moderate DVC property. This is a very interesting concept, especially if moderate DVC points are in a new/different/lower class, and as a result hard to use for deluxe DVC spaces (as otherwise current point holders would complain about new competition for deluxe DVC spaces without new deluxe capacity).
The specific area they discussed for a Caribbean Beach DVC spot was near Buena Vista Boulevard—e.g. they noted the possibility of a new seven story tower with views of IllumiNations, and perhaps even boat service to Epcot and on to Disney’s Hollywood Studios.
A look at the map shows that this is certainly possible, perhaps in the wetlands between Aruba and Barbados, or perhaps even by tearing down the Customs House, replacing its function in new space near Old Port Royale, and building there.
But I’m more intrigued by Moderate DVC in the blank piece of property across Barefoot Bay from the pirate rooms at Trinidad South (shown above).
But what? Build paired, connecting Moderate DVC Pirate Studios, with a king bed and full kitchen studio on one side of the connecting door, and a queen/sofa/murphy bed studio on the other side.
See the concept image. Inspired on one side by half of a Music family suite, and on the other side by a Villas at the Wilderness Lodge studio, this is not precisely to scale (there’s more floor space than it indicates) and, more to the point, is entirely made up, but it communicates my idea adequately.
These rooms could be rented separately (though there might be occupancy issues with the king/kitchen side), or be rented as a connected pair.
The connected pair, with a king, capacity for seven, two baths, and a full (though tiny) kitchen, would be clearly better than a family suite at the values, but also much smaller and more cramped than a eight or nine person Two Bedroom Villa at a current DVC deluxe resort–Villas that have at least 50% more floor space.
This puts a connecting pair in the right straddling niche for a Moderate DVC space…
Now, let’s be clear: With this floor plan, I am not reporting a rumor. I’ve simply made it up as an example of what’s possible in a Moderate DVC space using the current footprints of Pirate rooms…
Disney could start with such a building across from Trinidad South, and if demand justified, build multi-story towers with similar spaces on the undeveloped area across Barefoot Bay. With taller buildings and elevators, there’s easily room there for a thousand studios there…
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November 18, 2014 18 Comments