Category — e. What to Budget for Walt Disney World

Update 10/8: These deals are out!! See this.

My bud Joe Black’s disboards post here has the details on a Disney Visa room-only offer for 2014 at Walt Disney World that came out this morning.

I expect a general-public deal to come out October 8 that’ll be very similar.

Here’s the scoop he’s reporting, slightly edited and re-ordered…

Dates: January 5 – April 12, 2014 (certain dates may vary slightly, especially between March 6-13 where discounts will be  less.)

Value Resorts:

• 20% off: All Star Music, All Star Sports, Pop Century Resort
• 15% off: Art of Animation Family Suites
• 5% off: All Star Movies
• Excluded:  Art of Animation Little Mermaid Standard Rooms

Moderate Resorts:

• 25% off: Caribbean Beach, Coronado Springs, Port Orleans Riverside, Fort Wilderness Cabins
• 5% off: Port Orleans French Quarter

Deluxe Resorts:

• 35% off: Animal Kingdom Lodge (Standard & Pool View), Beach Club, Yacht Club, BoardWalk Inn, Polynesian Resort, Contemporary Resort, Grand Floridian Resort & Spa , Wilderness Lodge (Standard & Woods View)
• 25% off: Animal Kingdom Lodge (Club Level & Savanna View), Wilderness Lodge (Club Level & Courtyard View)
• Excluded (or perhaps 5% off): Other view types

DVC Resorts:

• 35% off: Saratoga Springs, Old Key West, Beach Club Villas, BoardWalk Inn Villas
• 25% off: Villas at Wilderness Lodge and Animal Kingdom Lodge Villas
• 5% off: Bay Lake Tower
• Excluded: Grand Floridian Resort & Spa and 3-bedroom Villas

There’s also a “Stay Play Dine” Disney Visa offer, but I don’t quite get its terms yet, so I’ll add that later.

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Update 10/8: These deals are out!!  See this.
Rumors have been rampant since Monday that Disney World will release two deals for 2014 on October 8.

The most common version is that room-rate discounts and a Stay/Play/Dine deal will be coming out then, and will cover much of January, all of February, some of March, and early April.

I haven’t been able to confirm any of the specific details being written about with my own sources, but the Mysterious J has confirmed that two Disney World deals in fact will come out October 8. 

As I get more details sent from trusted sources, I will pass them along!

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There’s two Disney World deals that expire today–a free dining deal, and a room rate deal.

Details are here.

If you want one of these deals, act quickly!

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Over the years they’d trained their staff in it, dedicated staff to its readers, and even added a toll-free line just for the readers of yourfirstvisit.net.

Our relationship means that if you book your Disney World vacation through them, they spread a little pixie dust back to me–which helps in defraying the time and costs of researching and writing this site.

Every now and then they offer a special deal.  Now through August 15th, it’s transfer week–if you transfer your reservation to them, you get a cute little gift delivered to your room!

Jennifer at Destinations in Florida provided the following details (and the photo of the gift!):

Did you just spend hours on hold with Disney last week to get the new free dining or room discount?  How would like to get a free in room gift from Disney Florist and free services from our agency?   

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When you transfer your reservation, your reservation stays exactly the same.  The only change is our agency will be added to your reservation.  We can then help you plan the rest of your trip including itinerary planning, dining suggestions and reservations, and local experts (at your beck and call).  You also get lots of freebies including:

• MousePerks – Hundreds of crafts, activities sheets, tips, and more created just for our guests.  Receive magic in your email box!
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• Disney Theme Park Guide Maps – Learn your way around the parks, before you get there with Disney Theme Park Guide Maps
• Pictures of Mickey Mouse – Your kids will love the pictures of Mickey Mouse!
• Itinerary Planning – Learn how to save hours in lines at the parks and beat the crowds with personalized itinerary planning for your family.  This one free service is valued at $149.
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• Disney Florist In Room Gift – which includes the Mickey Treat Cooler with Mickey Mouse plush, Mickey clock, snacks, and Mickey Cooler (valued at $75).

It’s simple procedure to let Destinations in Florida Travel take over your reservation.   Just  click on this link and request a transfer.  We will email you a form to fill out.  You will sign the bottom of the transfer form and fax to Disney.  It then takes Disney about a week to add them to your reservation.  Everything else stays the same on your reservation.  Then let the fun begin!  Hurry – this promotion ends on August 15.

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Thanks, Jennifer! And..

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So later this week I’ll be headed to Walt Disney World for six nights, split between All-Star Movies and All-Star Sports.

(I also have double bookings in Cars and Lion King at Art of Animation and the Polynesian–I’ll explain all in a later post, “Resort Hopping at Walt Disney World” lol).

I made all these reservations on Disney World room-only deals, and for the first time ever got pre-visit surveys about my Disney World deal-seeking behavior–actually I got the survey twice, once for Movies and once for Sports.

The survey was pretty clearly trying to get at the role of the deal in my choice of when to visit and where to stay, and if I would have gone then and there anyway had the deal not been out.

Now that the Disney World deals for the rest of 2013 are clear, we’re all speculating about 2014 deals at Walt Disney World.  These surveys–and lots of other stuff–give food for thought.

DISNEY WORLD DEALS IN 2014

Disney does deals because it makes more money that way.

Almost all Disney deals are about driving up occupancy in its resort hotels.  This makes perfect sense, as these are high-fixed-cost assets with inventory that if not sold just disappears, and so are perfect for discounting.

Deals enable it to hit profitability targets at a higher overall average per room rate–offering rack rate to those who don’t know about, are unwilling to seek, or are not eligible for, the deals, and deals to get the last bit of demand from those who need lower prices, or just demand a discount.

The art of putting two different prices on the same capacity–from the strategic pricing perspective–is to

1. Not give the deal to people who would have happily paid full price, (thus the surveys, trying to measure this) and to
2. Not let the deal permanently reduce the perception that people have of the value of the offering

So, one way or another, you make these deals hard to get.  I suppose we saw that in spades last Thursday…

The need to offer the deals at all is partly influenced by what people perceive as the value for money of the resorts themselves–so the easiest way for Disney to make more money off of its hotels is to add value to the resorts and make fewer deals.

Well, what’s happening in 2014?  A couple of things.  The Mine Train ride at New Fantasyland will open, and, someday, Fastpass+ will open too.  And it’s been widely speculated–and as much as admitted on a recent earnings call–that Walt Disney World resort hotel guests will get something better than everyone else out of Fastpass+–though no one on the outside can say for sure what that’ll be.

So I put these together and say that Disney resort hotel guests will get something special, and that that–combined with the improving economy–suggests limited discounts in 2014.  We saw no free dining in 2013 until September–and based on what I’ve laid out so far, that’s my bet for 2014 too.

But…Disney does not act in a vacuum.  And Universal Orlando has a couple of big openings in 2014 as well.  Harry Potter will expand into Universal Studios, and Universal will be opening its first lower-priced hotel, Cabana Bay Beach Resort, in stages beginning early in the year.

So what does this mean?  Well, honestly, I’m still thinking about it.  The timing of everything mentioned is a key variable, and I don’t have confidence in any opening dates.   I guess the best I can forecast right now is lesser discounts (especially less free dining) from Disney in early 2014 compared to late 2013 unless and until Universal starts making an impact on Disney bookings…

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DESPITE THURSDAY’S DEBACLE, PEOPLE ARE STILL GETTING FREE DINING AND ROOM RATE DEALS AT DISNEY WORLD

Despite all the unavailability on Thursday, people have been finding since then that the same dates and rooms that were unavailable then have been bookable Friday and today.

Start with the links to these deals on Disney’s website, and if that doesn’t work, call. Disney’s page on the free dining at Disney World is here, and its page on the room-only discount is here.  The number is 407-939-7729.

And if that doesn’t work, ask if you have, or beg for, a pin code!!  Word is that another round of pin codes is out!

WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED

Disney was inundated with calls on Thursday (you can only change a reservation by talking directly to Disney) –6 hours spent on hold were reported as common, especially for travel agents who have special lines that couldn’t take the demand.

As a result, many people on hold–and others with travel agent bookings waiting to hear–double-booked deals while waiting to change their old bookings.

Eventually they canceled one of their bookings, and eventually, it seems, these rooms went back into the free dining pool.

There’s a thread with examples of the kinds of rooms that are being cancelled here.

Now all Disney deals are subject to availability. Some resorts aren’t offered at all, and many of the more popular among the rest have a very small number of rooms allocated to a deal.  This is particularly true for free dining, which is a very expensive and complicated promotion.

Word is from at least one cast member that Disney had initially not planned to make this offer at all (which is what I’d been predicting), and when it did, both dates and room allocations were much tighter than in the past.  That, combined with system failures, is what presumably led to Thursday’s zoo.

But all is not lost!  Keep trying! And if you have no luck this weekend–try again daily on the website, and call again every now and then.

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