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From my friend Kelly B:

Did you recently book a Disney World vacation? Are you overwhelmed with the details of planning or just looking to have a little more spending money?

If you booked your vacation directly with Disney (by phone or online) within the past 30 days, you can transfer your reservation to Destinations in Florida and watch the Pixie Dust start flying!

Transferring your reservation to me allows you to work directly with you as your own personal Disney World expert. I’ll be able to provide you with our agency’s many invaluable services including:

• Free Itinerary Planning (valued at $149)
• Free Mouse Perks – Tips, Updates, and Fun Freebies (valued at $199)
• Free Dining Services – Dining suggestions and reservation planning (valued at $69)
• Free FastPass+ Services – FastPass+ planning and reservation assistance (valued at $59)
• Free Future Discount Search – Ongoing searching for future discount to apply to your vacation.

But the magic doesn’t stop there!  You’ll also receive a FREE Disney Gift card of up to $100.

• Package of $2500 – $2999 / Free $40 Disney Gift Card
• Package of $3000 – $3500 / Free $50 Disney Gift Card
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• Package of $5000 and up / Free $100 Disney Gift Card

To transfer your Disney Vacation Package, please contact me (Kelly B – Dave’s dedicated Destinations in Florida travel agent) at 980-429-4499, request a transfer online, or email me at KellyB@DestinationsInFlorida.com today.

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Disney World’s 2017 resort hotel prices were released on Tuesday.

You can book them by contacting Kelly B at KellyB@DestinationsInFlorida.com or 980-429-4499. Or click here to receive your free quote for 2017.

The Disney Word price seasons for 2017 are here.

I’ve been analyzing a sample of resorts since Tuesday, and the upshot is that compared to hefty price increases that we’ve seen for all components of a Disney vacation going back to the 2016 room prices, the price increases for 2017 are quite restrained.

Only Art of Animation, Port Orleans French Quarter and Port Orleans Riverside see hefty increases. (Reviews of all Disney World resort hotels mentioned in this pricing round-up are linked to from here–I’ve stayed in more than 125 different Disney World hotel rooms, and my reviews are based on these stays.) Other resorts see just low or moderate price increases–including a whole slew of deluxes that see no increase for most or all of 2017.

Analyzing Disney resort price changes is difficult—there’s more than 20 hotels, many differently-priced room and view types within them, seven to nine different major price seasons over the course of the year, additional weekend and holiday upcharges, and more. As a result, unless you have a LOT of time on your hands you need to sample, and that’s what I’ve done.

In general I sample the lowest-priced rooms at all of the resorts and add one higher-priced room type at each deluxe resort, and then analyze:

• Season price increases across all the major Disney World price seasons—e.g. “Regular” season prices for 2017 compared to 2016
• Changes in the dates covered by price seasons that have an impact on price levels—a lot of that happened in 2016, and it’s mostly maintained in 2017
• Changes in the relative price levels of hotels in a single price class—a lot of that happened in 2016, and it’s largely maintained in 2017

For 2017 I sampled 24 room types across the seven major price seasons at the values and moderates and the nine major price seasons at the deluxes.  This yielded 396 points of comparison between 2017 and 2016 prices. The detailed results follow.

DISNEY WORLD VALUE RESORTS PRICING IN 2017

Price season structure changes

For 2016, price seasons for later August through the end of October changed from the old “Value 2” to “Fall” in later August and earlier September, and from “Fall” to “Regular” from mid-September to almost the end of October.

In both cases the switch was from a lower-priced season to a higher priced season, in effect substantially raising prices for this period.

In addition, for earlier in 2016, two short periods became “Regular” that used to be “Value” or “Value 2”—in early February and mid-August.

2017 largely maintains this new seasonal structure at the values, but with a couple of twists:

• The early February insertion of a few Regular seasons days has been abandoned, and these days go back to being Value season in 2017–in effect a price cut
• The August Regular season goes on a week longer in 2017 than it did in 2016 before Fall season kicks in–in effect a price increase
• A few mid-December dates that in 2016 were Peak season are Regular season in 2017–in effect a price cut

Price level changes

The basic pattern among value resort standard rooms of Art of Animation Little Mermaid rooms being most expensive and the All-Stars being least expensive continues in 2017.

Art of Animation rooms show the highest price increases among these standard rooms in 2017, and the All-Stars the lowest, extending this gap, and putting Little Mermaid rooms shockingly close to standard moderate room prices some dates (especially in the Summer season).

The three Family Suite areas at Art of Animation—Finding Nemo, Cars, and Lion King—had the same prices until 2016. In 2016, Finding Nemo suites became more expensive than the other two, which are priced the same. This price structure among the family suites stayed the same in 2017.

Season price increases

Prices in the All-Stars in 2016 showed no to very low increase compared to 2015. For 2017, average prices in the All-Stars are up a little less than 3%,  with the lowest increases in the Summer and Fall seasons and the highest in the Value and Easter seasons. Family Suites at Music are up a little less but show the same seasonal patterns.

Pop Century standard rooms showed no price increases for the Summer or Fall seasons in 2016, and increases of 2-4% in the other 2016 seasons. Increases are higher in 2017, averaging 5.5%, with only the Summer season not showing a moderate or substantial increase.

Little Mermaid rooms at Art of Animation increased 3-5% in the major seasons in 2016, and show much higher increases in 2017–an average of almost 9%, with increases of more than 7% in every major 2017 price season.

Art of Animation Family Suites at Cars and Lion King are up on average 7% for 2017 after low increases in 2016. Peak and Summer prices are up less than 4%, with all other major seasons up 7% to 9.5%. Finding Nemo Suites show an average increase of 9%, with 7% to 10% increases in all major seasons.

DISNEY WORLD MODERATE RESORTS PRICING IN 2017

Price season structure

The moderates saw the same price season structure changes in 2016 as the value resorts did, and the same minor changes to them for 2017. See the material above for more on this.

Price level changes

Until 2016, Caribbean Beach, Port Orleans French Quarter, and Port Orleans Riverside standard rooms had the same prices, while Coronado Springs tracked them some nights and other nights was $3-5 more.

In a major change, in 2016 Riverside and French Quarter became the most expensive moderates. In 2017, after the price changes noted below, Riverside and Port Orleans became even more expensive than the other moderates, and Caribbean Beach and Coronado Springs most seasons are priced the same.

Season price increases

Coronado Springs shows average price increases of 2.5%, with the biggest increases in the Fall and Summer Weekend rates.

Caribbean Beach prices increased an average of 3.8%, putting its rooms at the same prices as those at Coronado Springs in all seasons except the Value and Peak season, when Coronado Springs remains higher.

Prices at Port Orleans French Quarter and Port Orleans Riverside rocketed up 7-9% across all the major seasons, with an average increase of 8%, widening the price differential with the other two traditional moderates that we first saw in 2016.

DISNEY WORLD DELUXE RESORTS PRICING IN 2017

Price season structure

The deluxe resorts run to a different price season calendar than the values and moderates, especially from early July through mid-November.

They did not have the major seasonal date changes that the values and moderates had in 2016. Rather, in 2016 they had only two small seasonal changes, with a few days in early February shifting to Regular instead of Value, and a week in early November shifting to Regular instead of Fall.

2017 shows

• The brief period of Regular prices in early February has been abandoned, in effect a price cut
• There are two extra weeks of Value 2 in August before prices shift to Value, in effect a small price increase
• A few mid-December dates that in 2016 were Peak season are Regular season in 2017–in effect a price cut

Price level changes

There’s a bewildering plethora of price points at the deluxes—many view options, with “Club” service options as well. I only sampled the full set of price changes in fifteen deluxe room types, and based on that saw no material change among the overall resort price standings.

The Grand Floridian is still the most expensive, and standard rooms at the Wilderness Lodge are still the least expensive.

Season price increases

Price increases at the deluxes are shockingly restrained for 2017, so much so that I initially wondered if they were typos.  But, at least as of yesterday, these low increases still stand, and people are booking at these rates (Kelly B at KellyB@DestinationsInFlorida.com or 980-429-4499 can book them for you).

Of the 15 deluxe room types I analyzed, the average price increase was less than 2%. Six had average increases of 1% or less, and only one (Wilderness Lodge Standard View rooms, which saw hardly any increases last year) showed average increases greater than 3.5%.

Polynesian Village standard view room prices are unchanged all major seasons except for a 1% increase in the Fall Season. Poly Theme Park view prices are up an average of 1%–prices are unchanged in many seasons, up 1% in a couple, and up 3% in the Easter and Fall seasons.

See, for example, late August through early November 2016 and 2017 standard view room prices at the Polynesian:

…and Theme Park view prices:

You see across these five seasons (Value, Regular 2, Columbus Day, Fall, and Regular) no change to tiny changes in prices…

Contemporary Resort Tower Bay Lake view rooms are unchanged for 2017 in most seasons, showing only a small (<1%) uptick in the Holiday season.  Theme Park view Tower rooms here are up more substantially, averaging 3.4%, with the Peak, Summer and Value 2 seasons showing the lowest increases of around 1% and the Fall and Holiday seasons showing the highest increases of 5.5% to 7%.

Grand Floridian standard view rooms show an average increase of 1.3%, with no or low increases most seasons and 3% to 5.5% increases in the Easter and Holiday seasons. Theme Park view rooms at the Grand Floridian are up an average of 3.4%, with the lowest increases of around 1% in the Peak, Summer and Value 2 seasons, and the highest increases of 5.5% to 7% in the Fall and Holiday seasons.

Wilderness Lodge standard rooms, after next to no increases in 2016, are up an average of 5.4%, with 5% to 6.5% increases across the board except for the Value 2 season, when increases are about 2.7%. Courtyard view rooms here average a 1.3% increase, with most seasons seeing no or less than 1% price increases, but prices up 2.5% to 5.5% in the Value and Fall seasons.

BoardWalk Inn standard view room prices are largely unchanged in 2017, with only the Fall Season seeing a slight increase. Water view rooms here show the same pattern–unchanged in all seasons except for Fall.

Standard view rooms at the Yacht Club and Beach Club are up 3.2% on average. There’s no price changes in the Easter and Holiday seasons, a <1% increase in the Value 2 season, and increases of 3% to 6% in the other seasons. Water or Lagoon View rooms here are up on average less than 1%, with no price increases in the Value, Regular, Peak, and Holiday seasons, and ~1% increases in the Summer, Value 2, and Fall seasons. Only the Easter and Regular 2 seasons see price increases above 1%.

Animal Kingdom Lodge standard room prices are up an average of 2%.  The Regular, Peak, Easter, Summer, Fall and Holiday seasons show no changes to less than 1% increases. Value and Value 2 prices are 4% to 7.5%, and weekday prices in the Regular 2 season also increased at that level. Savanna view rooms are up on average almost 3%, with some seasons seeing low increases but the Value, Easter, Value 2, Fall and Holiday seasons seeing increases of 2.7% to (most of the remaining seasons) 5%.

MORE ON THE DISNEY WORLD RESORTS

I’ve stayed in more than 125 different Disney World rooms, suites, villas, and such. Reviews resulting from these stays are linked to here.

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Disney World has released its hotel prices for 2017 and made the year available for booking!

I’ve spent most of today updating the 2017 price seasons (image below) and also gathering the data to analyze 2017 price changes.  I still have to re-check my analyses, but so far I am seeing many lower increases than last year, especially at the deluxes.

Meanwhile, friend of the site Kelly B can book your 2017 vacation!  Here’s the scoop:

It’s Finally Here….Disney just released its 2017 Disney Vacation Packages! Now is the time to book your next Disney vacation!!

I’m Kelly, the dedicated Destinations In Florida travel agent for yourfirstvisit.net.  It would be my privilege to help you plan your 2017 Disney vacation.

Remember when you book with Destinations in Florida you will get our agency’s many invaluable services including:

• Free Itinerary Planning (valued at $149)
• Free Mouse Perks – Tips, Updates, and Fun Freebies (valued at $199)
• Free Dining Services – Dining suggestions and reservation planning (valued at $69)
• Free FastPass+ Services – FastPass+ planning and reservation assistance (valued at $59)
• Free Future Discount Search – Ongoing searching for future discount to apply to your vacation
• Give Kids The World – Our agency is proud to support one of Orlando’s local organizations called Give Kids the World.  This organization is a 70 acre storybook village in Kissimmee where children with life-threatening illnesses are treated to a cost-free fantasy vacation. For every package booked with our agency, a donation goes to Give Kids the World. Thank you for helping support this wonderful organization.

Click here to receive your free quote for 2017

Did you know you can reserve your whole vacation to Walt Disney World, including resort room, tickets, Disney Dining Plan and even the Memory Maker with just a $200 deposit? The final amount must be paid 30 days prior to your check in date.

And as a fan of yourfirstvisit.net, all qualifying reservations will receive a FREE copy of Dave’s The easy Guide to Your First Disney World Visit.  Contact me today at KellyB@DestinationsInFlorida.com or 980-429-4499.

Thanks, Kelly! And more to come on the price changes for 2017 soon!

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This To-Do List is for the Six Night variant of the FastPass+ 2016 Basic December Itinerary.  For To-Do-Lists for other itineraries, see this.

A. MORE THAN 180 DAYS BEFORE YOUR PLANNED ARRIVAL DATE

(Note that a good travel agent, such as Destinations in Florida, can do almost all of this for you, for free. If you use Destinations in Florida as you travel agent through a link for this site–like this one–then they share a bit of the pixie dust they get from Disney with me.)

1. Confirm your budget, planned dates, intended hotel, kids’ development and heights, and your transportation choice and its availability for your planned dates.

2. Make your plane reservations, if flying. Make any other needed transportation arrangements.

3. Create your My Disney Experience account here and add your family members to it

4. Set up your hotel and tickets. Call 407-939-7675 (preferred, because this allows you to tell the reservationist which building at your resort you wish to be in), or click here to use Disney’s online system.

• If you are following my itinerary, you want the hotel you’ve picked for six nights, seven day, no hopper, no “water parks and more” tickets, the Dining Plan, and Disney’s Magical Express

B. 181 DAYS BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL DATE

1. Login to your MyDisneyExperience.com account, click the “Things to Do” tab at top right, under Dining hit “Make Reservations,” and practice trying to reserve restaurants (hint: use the search box at the upper right).

This may well drive you crazy, but the site works better than it used to…and is likely the only way you can get your Cindy reservations done! (as the site opens up a new reservable day at 6a, whereas the phone reservation line opens at 7a).

2. Collect your planned restaurant reservations together. You will want to do them online in order of hardest to reserve first. This is how they are listed below.

C. EXACTLY 6am EST, EXACTLY 180 DAYS BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL DATE

(For an 180 day calendar, see this).

1. Be on the restaurant website by at least 5:50am EST, and have your Cindy reservation all set up on the page. Keep refreshing, as you will be let in as soon as Disney’s system decides it is 6a.

2. Make as many of the following as you have patience for (try to get through at least Chef Mickey’s), in the exact order listed:

• Cinderella’s Royal Table Lunch (dining plan, two credits): Thursday at 11a or later if you can; earlier than 11 only if your sole option…
• Chef Mickey’s (dining plan, one credit) Thursday 7p.  Later is OK, but not a whole lot earlier
• San Angel Inn as Candlelight Processional Dining Package (dining plan, two credits): Wednesday 5.45p. Can be earlier but not later.
• Crystal Palace around 5.30p Tuesday. Earlier is OK, but not much later

For those you don’t make online, make them by calling call (407) WDW-DINE (939-3463)

3. Go to the site for Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party, and order tickets for your family for Tuesday

D. 60 DAYS BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL DATE

1. Go to your MyDisneyExperience account at 7a and set up the following FastPass+

• Saturday evening at Epcot: Book just one, Test Track, for 6-7p
• Sunday at Disney’s Animal Kingdom: Expedition Everest 9-10a, DINOSAUR 10-11a, Kali River Rapids 1-2p
• Monday at Disney’s Hollywood Studios: Tower of Terror 9-10a, Toy Story Midway Mania 10-11a, Frozen Sing-Along 11.30a show
• Tuesday at Magic Kingdom: Haunted Mansion 11.30a-12.30p, Peter Pan 12.30-1.30p, Seven Dwarfs Mine Train 1.30-2.30p
• Wednesday at Epcot: Soarin’ 11a-noon, Living with the Land noon-1p, Turtle Talk with Crush 2p show
• Thursday at Magic Kingdom: Book afternoon FastPass+ for Pirates of the Caribbean, Splash Mountain, and Big Thunder Mountain. Design the times for them around the time of your reservation for Cinderella’s Royal Table, and don’t set one for 2.30-3.30p, as you will need that time for the afternoon parade. (A FP+ 2-3p and/or 3-4p is OK, as you can use them at the beginning of the 2p window or end of the 3p window without interrupting your parade viewing.
• Friday at Epcot: Spaceship Earth 9-10a, Mission Space 10-11a, Frozen Ever After 11a-noon

2. Do online check in, requesting as you do special location points

3. Customize your MagicBands

E. NOTES ON PACKING ETC. BEFORE YOU LEAVE

1. Bring your MagicBands in your carry-ons

2. If you use Disney’s Magical Express, you do not need to collect your bags at the Orlando airport unless you arrive late in the evening/at night or are an international traveler. Disney will get them for you and, eventually, deliver them directly to your room. Your bags may arrive hours after you do; so, depending on the weather forecasts, have a carry-on with an appropriate change of clothes for Orlando weather on Saturday, as you will almost certainly go to Epcot on Saturday before your checked bags arrive.

3. Follow the instructions in the Magical Express packet you will receive in the mail regarding both tagging your bags pre-departure, and where to go at the Orlando airport to find your transport to your resort.

4. Bring a copy of your room reservation, confirmation numbers and any tickets for special events you may have received in the mail.

5. Pack breakfast utensils, as they are not always available in the gift shop: bowls, spoons, napkins

6. When you arrive at the hotel, look for the special “On-line Check-in” line, and get into it.

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This itinerary will be retired for 2017, as with additions at the Animal Kingdom it is too short.

This Walt Disney World itinerary is designed for the three weeks following Thanksgiving 2016.

It is a six night variant of the Basic December 2016 FastPass+ Itinerary.

If you aren’t going one of those weeks, see Other Itineraries for alternatives the rest of the year, which are published about six months ahead.

You can enlarge the itinerary by clicking it. 

A detailed To-Do List covers all the steps you need to undertake.

The To-Do List covers all the key reservations in the following daily plans:

• Saturday
• Sunday
• Monday
• Tuesday
• Wednesday
• Thursday
• Friday

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This To-Do List is for the Seven Night Sunday Arrival variant of the FastPass+ 2016 Basic December Itinerary.  For To-Do-Lists for other itineraries, see this.

A. MORE THAN 180 DAYS BEFORE YOUR PLANNED ARRIVAL DATE

(Note that a good travel agent, such as Destinations in Florida, can do almost all of this for you, for free. If you use Destinations in Florida as you travel agent through a link for this site–like this one–then they share a bit of the pixie dust they get from Disney with me.)

1. Confirm your budget, planned dates, intended hotel, kids’ development and heights, and your transportation choice and its availability for your planned dates.

2. Make your plane reservations, if flying. Make any other needed transportation arrangements.

3. Create your My Disney Experience account here and add your family members to it

4. Set up your hotel and tickets. Call 407-939-7675 (preferred, because this allows you to tell the reservationist which building at your resort you wish to be in), or click here to use Disney’s online system.

• If you are following my itinerary, you want the hotel you’ve picked for seven nights, eight day, no hopper, no “water parks and more” tickets, the Dining Plan, and Disney’s Magical Express

B. 181 DAYS BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL DATE

1. Login to your MyDisneyExperience.com account, click the “Things to Do” tab at top right, under Dining hit “Make Reservations,” and practice trying to reserve restaurants (hint: use the search box at the upper right).

This may well drive you crazy, but the site works better than it used to…and is likely the only way you can get your Cindy reservations done! (as the site opens up a new reservable day at 6a, whereas the phone reservation line opens at 7a).

2. Collect your planned restaurant reservations together. You will want to do them online in order of hardest to reserve first. This is how they are listed below.

C. EXACTLY 6am EST, EXACTLY 180 DAYS BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL DATE

(For an 180 day calendar, see this).

1. Be on the restaurant website by at least 5:50am EST, and have your Cindy reservation all set up on the page. Keep refreshing, as you will be let in as soon as Disney’s system decides it is 6a.

2. Make as many of the following as you have patience for (try to get through at least Crystal Palace), in the exact order listed:

• Cinderella’s Royal Table Lunch (dining plan, two credits): Thursday at 11a or later if you can; earlier than 11 only if your sole option…
• Hoop-Dee-Doo Revue (dining plan, two credits): Thursday 6.15p show. The later time will keep you up later than you need to be, OK if all you can get. Avoid the earlier time–it’ll cut into your park time too much
• Chef Mickey’s (dining plan, one credit) Saturday 6p.  Later is OK, but not a whole lot earlier
• San Angel Inn as Candlelight Processional Dining Package (dining plan, two credits): Friday 5.45p. Can be earlier but not later.

For those you don’t make online, make them by calling call (407) WDW-DINE (939-3463)

3. Go to the site for Mickey’s Very Merry Christmas Party, and order tickets for your family for Tuesday

D. 60 DAYS BEFORE YOUR ARRIVAL DATE

1. Go to your MyDisneyExperience account at 7a and set up the following FastPass+

1. Go to your MyDisneyExperience account at 7am and set up the following FastPass+

• First Sunday evening at Epcot: Book just one, Test Track, for 6-7p
• Monday at Disney’s Hollywood Studios: Tower of Terror 9-10a, Toy Story Midway Mania 10-11a, Frozen Sing-Along 11.30a show
• Tuesday at Epcot: Frozen Ever After noon-1p, Mission Space 1-2p, Spaceship Earth 2-3p
• Wednesday at Disney’s Animal Kingdom: Kali River Rapids 1-2p, Rivers of Light (keep checking for its opening date and book your FastPass+ for they become bookable), Kilimanjaro Safaris (latest available; you may later have to move it to book Rivers of Light)
• Thursday at Magic Kingdom: Book afternoon FastPass+ for Pirates of the Caribbean, Splash Mountain, and Big Thunder Mountain. Design the times for them around the time of your reservation for Cinderella’s Royal Table, and don’t set one for 2.30-3.30p, as you will need that time for the afternoon parade. (A FP+ 2-3p and/or 3-4p is OK, as you can use them at the beginning of the 2p window or end of the 3p window without interrupting your parade viewing.
• Friday at Epcot: Soarin’ 11a-noon, Living with the Land noon-1p, Turtle Talk with Crush 2p show
• Saturday at Magic Kingdom: Seven Dwarfs Mine Train 1-2p, Peter Pan’s Flight 2-3p, Haunted Mansion 3-4p
• Second Sunday at Disney’s Animal Kingdom: 10a show of Festival of the Lion King, (will show as “9.30”), Expedition Everest 10.40-11.40a, DINOSAUR 11.40a-12.40p

2. Do online check in, requesting as you do special location points

3. Customize your MagicBands

E. NOTES ON PACKING ETC. BEFORE YOU LEAVE

1. Bring your MagicBands in your carry-ons

2. If you use Disney’s Magical Express, you do not need to collect your bags at the Orlando airport unless you arrive late in the evening/at night or are an international traveler. Disney will get them for you and, eventually, deliver them directly to your room. Your bags may arrive hours after you do; so, depending on the weather forecasts, have a carry-on with an appropriate change of clothes for Orlando weather on Saturday, as you will almost certainly go to Epcot on Saturday before your checked bags arrive.

3. Follow the instructions in the Magical Express packet you will receive in the mail regarding both tagging your bags pre-departure, and where to go at the Orlando airport to find your transport to your resort.

4. Bring a copy of your room reservation, confirmation numbers and any tickets for special events you may have received in the mail.

5. Pack breakfast utensils, as they are not always available in the gift shop: bowls, spoons, napkins

6. When you arrive at the hotel, look for the special “On-line Check-in” line, and get into it.

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