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  1. Troy
    February 9, 2013

    I think it’s funny that you didn’t get any response from Karen D after this post. I can imagine her looking shocked after she reads to the bottom, blinks, pauses, then clicks on her Facebook link and moves on… 🙂

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    • Dave
      February 9, 2013

      Troy: “reads to the bottom, blinks, pauses, then moves on”–isn’t that the effect I have on everyone?

      More seriously, I’m betting that the comment is the first time a Disney site has published a solved simultaneous equation!

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  2. Karen D
    January 30, 2013

    Dave, We are going in November 2013, the week prior to Thanksgiving for 7-9 days. We are considering a split stay between Art of Animation and the Polynesian. We are hopeful for free dining for the first part of our stay. Is there a simple explanation on how to get the best rate for a split stay and how long to stay at each resort? Thank you!

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    • Dave
      January 30, 2013

      Karen, you won’t get a better rate for the split stay than you could get for each individually, with one exception–each of these has an up-charge for Friday and Saturday nights, and the up charge at the Poly is higher than that at AofA, so it’s cheaper to do the Poly on Sun-Thurs.

      However, if you are thinking Little Mermaid 4 person standard rooms, then the way to plan your trip is to figure out how much in total you can afford for lodging, and then do the math to allocate the maximum number of nights to the Poly. I’d advise–despite the point above–to start at Little Mermaid, then shift to the Poly, because if you do the Poly first you may be really disappointed by Little Mermaid. If you are doing a family suite at AofA, the order matters much less.

      Figuring out the balance between the two requires solving a simple set of simultaneous equations, and all you need to know is your total room budget, total planned nights, and the nightly cost for the Poly and whichever room group you are targeting at Aof A. With that, here’s how to solve the equations:

      B = lodging budget (given)
      N= total nights (given)
      X = Poly nightly cost (given)
      Y= Art of Animation nightly costs (given)
      A = Art of Animation nights (to solve for)
      P= Poly nights (to solve for)
      Note that A+P= N, so A = N-P

      So you are solving the simultaneous equations for P (Polynesian nights):
      A+P=N
      A*Y + P*X= B

      Doing the algebra yields the following answer for Poly nights:
      P = (B-N*Y)/(X-Y)
      And thus for A of A nights you can plug in your answer to P:
      A = N-P

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  3. Scott
    January 26, 2013

    Dave…..Thanks as always. Love your site.

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  4. Scott
    January 25, 2013

    Hi Dave,

    So you do not think it is likely that a free dining plan will be offered as it was in 2012? With Pop Warner week beginning December 7 I was hoping an offer including a free meal plan might include the week starting December 2.

    I am trying to convince my wife we should go in December.

    Thanks,

    Scott

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    • Dave
      January 26, 2013

      Scott in 2012 Disney offered free dining for almost all dates into June, just skipping a few holiday weeks.

      So far this year it has offered it for none. And it has said many times in the past 24 months that it is cutting back discounts, and expects to get an economic return on its investment in New Fantasyland.

      So my guess is that we’ll see a lot less free dining the rest of 2013.

      Now every day I’m wrong six times before breakfast, and may be wrong on this too, but that’s my guess…

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  5. Nicole
    January 16, 2013

    Hello Dave,

    Your site is just awesome! We are planning to take our 2 year old to WDW for one week in early December 2013. Our current thought is to stay at the Wilderness Lodge Villas (the thinking being that it would be convenient to have a kitchen available to make things easier with a two year old??). I know from reading your site that Disney sometimes offers a free dining plan for this period given that it is low season – I am not sure when that might start to be offered for 2013 (if it is to be offered in 2013). When is it best to book our hotel stay (don’t want to miss the hotel but getting the free dining would be terrific). Two other questions – I assume our son would be able to swim in the hotel pools with us if he is in a swim diaper, correct? I know you cannot get a dining plan for those under 3 – how does it work for 3 and under (just ordering/paying off the menu I expect?). Thanks so much.

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    • Dave
      January 16, 2013

      Hi Nicole and thanks!

      First you can book now–it’s easier to convert later if you book a package with tickets–and then convert it later (by calling) if a deal comes out. If such a deal does come out–and I’d not bet on it–it could come out anytime between the summer and late fall.

      You would feed your son either from your own plate, with special foods you brought with you, or with stuff you bought for cash.

      And yes your son can swim with you!

      See also this: http://allears.net/pl/infant.htm

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  6. Suzanne
    January 15, 2013

    Hi Dave,
    I’m planning our family’s first trip to WDW for October 2013. 2 adults+ kids are 8, 6 and 6. 2 questions: I’m hoping to get in on the free dining plan – should I wait until dates are announced, or should I make a room-only booking for an AofA suite now to be sure we have a room? Question 2: all of my kids are picky eaters. If I can’t get the free dining plan, is it worth it to purchase it or should we just pay cash as we go?

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    • Dave
      January 15, 2013

      Hi Suzanne! Coupla things.

      One is that yes you can book now and convert later, but its easier to convert a “package”–that is room and something else you pay for, most commonly tix–than a room only deal. This has to do with arcana of Florida travel tax laws and resulting differences in how Disney accounts for the reservations. If you book a “package,” it’s easier to transfer it to free dining, which is also a “package.”

      But if you can’t get free dining, don’t buy the dining plan with young picky eaters. If a children’s menu is available, they’ll have to order off it, and there’s often not much more than nuggets, burgers, and mac and cheese on it…(of course if they always like burgers/nuggets/mac n cheese, then get the dining plan!)

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  7. Wade
    August 24, 2012

    We have booked our flight and hotel through Priceline Oct 24-26 3 night stay @
    Caribeen Beach Resort. No dining plan purchased. Can we still take advantage of the free dining plan?

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    • Dave
      August 24, 2012

      Hi Wade, free dining at the moderates sold out in the first week it was offered…

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  8. edith
    August 23, 2012

    Dave any chance the ( FDP ) could be offered week of Thanksgiving 2012 ?. My trip 11/18/12—11/24/12 has all ready added up to over 4,000 dollars stay at pop centry.

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    • Dave
      August 24, 2012

      Hi Edith, nope. They never do discounts during wildly crowded times like Thanksgiving, as they already have enough demand to fill their hotels…

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  9. Debbie
    August 4, 2012

    Dave, I already have my entire trip planned – airfare, hotel, park tickets and dining plan for December 6 – 13. What are the chances that Disney will add a few dates in early December for the free dining plan? I hate to change everything to plan around the free dining and then they add a few dates to the free dining and I could’ve kept my plans as is. Any advice?

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  10. Lily
    August 2, 2012

    I would keep checking sometimes people cancel and rooms become available.

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    • Dave
      August 2, 2012

      Thanks, Lily!

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    • Dave
      August 2, 2012

      Great point, Lily!

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  11. Michelle
    July 29, 2012

    Thanks for the information! I will keep waiting patiently 🙂

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  12. Michelle
    July 26, 2012

    We booked our trip back in January for Oct. 20-28th at the Port Orleans Riverside for 5 people. As soon as we saw the free dining go up for these dates, we called to switch and they said they were limiting the number of rooms that could get this deal. So I am bumming that we couldn’t take advantage of this deal especially since we are staying during the right dates. Any advice?

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    • Dave
      July 27, 2012

      Hi Michelle…Disney limits the number of rooms it’ll sell under these offers, and word is that the moderates sold out in days.

      However, there’s a good chance it’ll have a room rate offer for these dates as well–e.g. 20% off. Come back to this page every couple of days, as if it does do such a deal, I’ll post about it there within 12 to 36 hours…: https://yourfirstvisit.net/2010/03/29/walt-disney-worlds-latest-spring-and-summer-deal/

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  13. rose
    July 19, 2012

    Hi, can i book this offer if i live in the UK?

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    • Dave
      July 19, 2012

      Hi Rose, US offers are available worldwide, so yes, you can…

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